3.9: Heap placement issues

When Allegro CL starts, it maps the image, data, and shared objects to memory. With larger images and applications, this mapping has become a concern for programmers. In this collection of FAQ entries, we describe the issues surrounding heap placement.

Q 3.9-1) Sometimes Allegro CL, particularly large images, run out of memory or fail totally with a bus error or a segv. Why might this be happening?
Q 3.9-2) How is heap placement determined and what can go wrong?
Q 3.9-3) How does Lisp start up, in terms of shared-library linking and loading?
Q 3.9-4) What is the "Old Sun4" problem?
Q 3.9-5) How can I tell what addresses are being used in my process space?
Q 3-9.6) [Windows only] How do I move DLL in memory so that it doesn't conflict with the Lisp heap?
Q 3-9.7) What does the "Temporarily scaling back lisp reserved region from XXX to YYY bytes." mean?

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Q 3.9-1) Sometimes Allegro CL, particularly large images, run out of memory or fail totally with a bus error or a segv. Why might this be happening?

A 3.9-1) There are problems with the memory mapping and locations of the Lisp and foreign (C) heaps in a running Lisp image. We refer to these problems collectively as the heap placement problem. While these problems are not in fact new, they are only triggered when the Lisp image is large (typically greater than 500 Mbytes). Only recently have such large images become common.


Q 3.9-2) How is heap placement determined and what can go wrong?

A 3.9-2) When Allegro CL starts up, space must be found for the following:

If you use 32 bit addressing (as Allegro CL does on most platforms), there are potentially 4 Gigabytes of address space. However, most operating systems only allow 31 bit addresses, so only 2 Gigabytes are really available. Locations near address 0 (the bottom) are usually used by OS or kernel related things. Allegro CL therefore usually tries to start at some OS-dependent location, typically x20000000, so there is about 1.6 Gigabytes potentially above that. That is plenty for an application that uses less than, say, 0.5 Gigabytes, but as the application grows to, say, 1.5 Gigabytes, finding enough space becomes problematic.

A further complication arises from mapping of shared libraries, including the Allegro CL shared library which has extension .pll. Most shared libraries have a location where they prefer to be mapped. In some cases, problems arise if they cannot be mapped in that location.

Finally, Lisp has an idea (provided by the lisp-heap-size argument to build-lisp-image (see building-images.htm) of how much space it will need. When Lisp starts up, it tries to "get" that amount of space. We put "get" in quotation marks because it does not have a platform-independent meaning. On some (Sparcs, e.g.) you can reserve space but, like a reserve credit line, it is only taken when actually needed. More precisely, on such machines, Allegro CL reserves that amount of space. The Operating System then precludes other programs from using the reserved address space, but does not map the reserved space to actual swap space. When reserved space is mapped to swap space, the space is then committed. This is fine on the machines that support the distinction between reserved and committed space, but some machines (HP's running HP-UX 10.20, machines running Linux, and IBM machines running AIX) do not. On these machines the space you need is committed as soon as asked for, and so specifying a large lisp-heap-size on those machines can cause excessive swap space usage if the committed space is not actually needed.

So , what might go wrong when Allegro CL starts up? The following might be problems:

Even though this problem may affect any user of Allegro CL or an Allegro CL application, it is mostly a problem with developers of programs which will be distributed to a user base. Users who have an Allegro CL distribution and use a particular machine can, perhaps with trial and error (and perhaps with assistance from Franz Inc.), figure out how to build an image that will work on that machine. But VAR's, say, who are preparing a distribution requiring large images which will be sent to many customers, each of whom may have a different machine configuration and different programs running, may find it difficult to produce a single image suitable for all potential users on a particular platform.

Programmers can affect heap placements using these arguments to build-lisp-image (see building-images.htm):

Improvements in heap location management made available staring in release 5.0.1 make the successful mapping of large images more likely, and make the providing of one image for all users on a particular platform easier to solve. But, any application that uses most of the available address space is in danger of running into machine constraints which make the application fail.


Q 3.9-3) How does Lisp start up, in terms of shared-library linking and loading?

A 3.9-3) This is a complicated answer. We start with some terminology:

  1. The ACL shared library: This shared-library holds the base ACL system, and is sometimes known by the term "acldll". On Windows it is known as aclxxx.dll, and on UNIX it is called libaclxxx.ext where xxx is a version number and .ext is either .sl or .so.
  2. System libraries: shared-libraries that are pre-linked into either the ACL shared-library or the executable that loads the ACL library, or any shared-library on which a system library is dependent. This is a broad definition of system library, and can include any user-supplied library that has been linked into the executable.
  3. User loaded libraries: These are libraries that are loaded with the Common Lisp LOAD function, but not pre-linked as are system libraries.

The Startup Process:

  1. The operating system starts up the executable. Before the executable is able to start running, all system libraries must be loaded into memory and available. Various operating systems do this in various ways, using implementation dependent algorithms to place the libraries into memory. Also, whether all symbols are bound at the time of the library placement or whether the symbols are bound lazily (i.e., when needed only) is OS dependent; some systems may provide both.
  2. The executable begins to run. It may perform any operations it wants to do, including loading shared-libraries.
  3. The ACL shared-library is loaded if necessary and lisp_init is invoked. The operating system ensures that all shared-libraries that were linked into the ACL shared-library are loaded before lisp_init is allowed to start. If the ACL shared-library was linked in, lisp_init can be called immediately. Step 1 above assured that all proper links are done. See main.htm for further details.
  4. lisp-init determines a heap (image) file, with extension typically .dxl. The heap file contains state information about the image, including whether a Pure Lisp Library will be used. The .dxl and .pll are loaded into memory in the following manner:
  5. The C heap is mapped in, and C variables are set. If a .pll file is to be used this fact becomes known at this time. The C heap can not be relocated from where it was first built.
  6. The .pll file, if present, is mapped in read-only. If it can't be mapped into the location it had been in a previous incarnation of Lisp, it is moved to another location. (Except when an image is built with build-lisp-image, there is always a previous incarnation of Lisp, perhaps the one that ran when the image was built.)
  7. The Lisp heap is mapped in. The best case is if the heap can be placed at the address and size that were specified by the build parameters. If those can't be satisfied, decreasing sizes are tried until either one is successful or the current commit level is passed (at the same address), followed by an operating-system-selected space of the built size, followed by decreasing sizes tried at OS selected locations until one is successful or the current commit level is passed (at which time Lisp startup fails). If the lisp-heap-size happens to be larger than the available swap, then only as much as can be actually allocated is used, as long as it is at least as large as the commit requirement.
  8. Pointers are adjusted if the Lisp heap or the .pll file had to be moved. (The Lisp heap file might have to be moved because the Lisp heap start address is not available, e.g. The .pll file might have to be moved if the address in the previous Lisp invocation is unavailable.) All pointers to the expected locations of the Lisp heap file and the pll file are moved to the new locations. This step is performed all at once, to ensure proper pointer movement.
  9. The Lisp starts. The process by which the Lisp starts is documented by the source file, <allegro directory>/src/aclstart.cl, which is provided in your distribution, and described in startup.htm. As one of the items in aclstart.cl, excl::reload-fix-entry-points (this function is not further documented) is called, which ensures that all system and user libraries are loaded if they are not already. This may involve performing a load on any libraries that were not loaded.

Now, there is a potential problem with the last step. If

then it is conceivable that there will be no swap left for the loading of the user libraries.

In this situation, it would be best for the executable to be programmed to pre-load the user librar(y/ies) so that the space is pre-allocated. (You do this by writing a customized main() that loads the needed libraries, see main.htm.) But this presents the possibility that the user library might break up the contiguous address space for the Lisp heap, especially on Windows. The problem in intractable in general, but solvable in individual cases.


Q 3.9-4) What is the "Old Sun4" problem?

A 3.9-4) There are some Sun4 machines which, although they can run late versions of Solaris 2.x, cannot mmap addresses in higher memory than approximately 0x10000000. It is problematic to build a Lisp image on one of these machines, because the Lisp and C heaps must be relatively small.

You can build a Lisp image that will run on all Sparcs running the appropriate levels of Solaris 2, but which will be limited in address space, if you build your Lisp image (using build-lisp-image, see building-images.htm, or generate-application, see delivery.htm) with the following parameters:

If you want to build your Lisp so that it can grow, the C heap must be higher; with the "heap placement patch" it defaults to #x54000000. But this will also preclude any use of the resulting images on old Sun4s. We have left you with the choice to make, instead of making it for you.


Q 3.9-5) How can I tell what addresses are being used in my process space?

A 3.9-5) There is a C function in the lisp:

  void memory_status_dump(char *file);

If you define a foreign call to this function and then call it while the lisp is running, it will give you a dump of every address in the process, and its status.

For example, on Windows:

USER(1): (ff:def-foreign-call (memory-status-dump "memory_status_dump") ())
MEMORY-STATUS-DUMP
USER(2): (memory-status-dump "c:/tmp/mem.txt")
Then, c:/tmp/mem.txt will contain:
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 77faa000 -  77fbdfff       81920   commit   image    r---
 77fbe000 -  77fbffff        8192     free            ----
 77fc0000 -  77fc0fff        4096   commit   image    r---
 77fc1000 -  77fc3fff       12288   commit   image    r-x-
 77fc4000 -  77fc4fff        4096   commit   image    r---
 77fc5000 -  77fc5fff        4096   commit   image    rw--
 77fc6000 -  77fc7fff        8192   commit   image    r---
 77fc8000 -  77fcffff       32768     free            ----
 77fd0000 -  77fd0fff        4096   commit   image    r---
 77fd1000 -  77fe6fff       90112   commit   image    r-x-
 77fe7000 -  77fe9fff       12288   commit   image    r---
 77fea000 -  77fedfff       16384   commit   image    rw--
 77fee000 -  77feefff        4096   commit   image    r-x-
 77fef000 -  77ff9fff       45056   commit   image    r---
 77ffa000 -  77ffffff       24576     free            ----
 78000000 -  78000fff        4096   commit   image    r---
 78001000 -  7802dfff      184320   commit   image    r-x-
 7802e000 -  78034fff       28672   commit   image    r---
 78035000 -  78035fff        4096   commit   image    rw--
 78036000 -  78036fff        4096   commit   image    rw-c
 78037000 -  78039fff       12288   commit   image    rw--
 7803a000 -  7803afff        4096   commit   image    rw-c
 7803b000 -  7803bfff        4096   commit   image    rw--
 7803c000 -  7803ffff       16384   commit   image    r---
 78040000 -  7f5effff   123404288     free            ----
 7f5f0000 -  7f6effff     1048576  reserve  mapped        
 7f6f0000 -  7f6f6fff       28672   commit  mapped    r-x-
 7f6f7000 -  7f7effff     1019904  reserve  mapped        
 7f7f0000 -  7ffaffff     8126464     free            ----
 7ffb0000 -  7ffd3fff      147456   commit  mapped    r---
 7ffd4000 -  7ffdcfff       36864     free            ----
 7ffdd000 -  7ffddfff        4096   commit private    rwx-
 7ffde000 -  7ffdefff        4096   commit private    rwx-
 7ffdf000 -  7ffdffff        4096   commit private    rwx-
 7ffe0000 -  7ffe0fff        4096   commit private    r---
 7ffe1000 -  7ffeffff       61440  reserve private    ----
Committed:
  image:     5971968 (0x5b2000)
  other:    11370496 (0xad8000)
  Total:    17342464  (0x108a000)

Note that each section of memory is grouped by how it is currently mapped; the four characters at the end are flags, with a dash representing not available, and one of r, w, x, and c for read, write, execute and copy-on-write (shared until written, when it will get a private copy).

On Solaris, the output would like look:

Mappings: 52, from struct prmap_t in sys/procfs.h:
0x00000000 - 0x0000ffff      65536  free
0x00010000 - 0x00017fff      32768  ---r-x offset = 0
0x00018000 - 0x00025fff      57344  free
0x00026000 - 0x00029fff      16384  ---rwx offset = 24576
0x0002a000 - 0x00033fff      40960  -b-rwx offset = 0
0x00034000 - 0x03ffffff   66895872  free
0x04000000 - 0x04705fff    7364608  ---rwx offset = 24576
0x04706000 - 0x04771fff     442368  ---rwx offset = 0
0x04772000 - 0x04899fff    1212416  ---rwx offset = 7389184
0x0489a000 - 0x04a49fff    1769472  ---rwx offset = 0
0x04a4a000 - 0x53ffffff 1331388416  free
0x54000000 - 0x54005fff      24576  ---rwx offset = 9093120
0x54006000 - 0xfe6fffff 2859442176  free
0xfe700000 - 0xfe7a7fff     688128  ---r-x offset = 0
0xfe7a8000 - 0xfe7b5fff      57344  free
0xfe7b6000 - 0xfe7bffff      40960  ---rwx offset = 679936
0xfe7c0000 - 0xfe7d7fff      98304  ---rwx offset = 0
0xfe7d8000 - 0xfe801fff     172032  free
0xfe802000 - 0xfe803fff       8192  ---rwx offset = 0
0xfe804000 - 0xfe903fff    1048576  free
0xfe904000 - 0xfe905fff       8192  ---rwx offset = 0
0xfe906000 - 0xfea05fff    1048576  free
0xfea06000 - 0xfea07fff       8192  ---rwx offset = 0
0xfea08000 - 0xfeb07fff    1048576  free
0xfeb08000 - 0xfeb09fff       8192  ---rwx offset = 0
0xfeb0a000 - 0xfec09fff    1048576  free
0xfec0a000 - 0xfec0bfff       8192  ---rwx offset = 0
0xfec0c000 - 0xfed0bfff    1048576  free
0xfed0c000 - 0xfed0dfff       8192  ---rwx offset = 0
0xfed0e000 - 0xfee0dfff    1048576  free
0xfee0e000 - 0xfee0ffff       8192  ---rwx offset = 0
0xfee10000 - 0xfef0bfff    1032192  free
0xfef0c000 - 0xfef0dfff       8192  ---rwx offset = 0
0xfef0e000 - 0xfef0ffff       8192  free
0xfef10000 - 0xfef11fff       8192  ---rwx offset = 0
0xfef12000 - 0xff00dfff    1032192  free
0xff00e000 - 0xff00ffff       8192  ---rwx offset = 0
0xff010000 - 0xff0bffff     720896  free
0xff0c0000 - 0xff0ddfff     122880  ---r-x offset = 0
0xff0de000 - 0xff0ebfff      57344  free
0xff0ec000 - 0xff0effff      16384  ---rwx offset = 114688
0xff0f0000 - 0xff0f9fff      40960  ---rwx offset = 0
0xff0fa000 - 0xff0fffff      24576  free
0xff100000 - 0xff1a3fff     671744  ---r-x offset = 0
0xff1a4000 - 0xff1b1fff      57344  free
0xff1b2000 - 0xff1b9fff      32768  ---rwx offset = 663552
0xff1ba000 - 0xff1bbfff       8192  ---rwx offset = 0
0xff1bc000 - 0xff1e3fff     163840  free
0xff1e4000 - 0xff1e5fff       8192  ---rwx offset = 0
0xff1e6000 - 0xff1effff      40960  free
0xff1f0000 - 0xff1f3fff      16384  ---r-x offset = 0
0xff1f4000 - 0xff1fffff      49152  free
0xff200000 - 0xff27ffff     524288  ---r-x offset = 0
0xff280000 - 0xff28dfff      57344  free
0xff28e000 - 0xff297fff      40960  ---rwx offset = 516096
0xff298000 - 0xff29ffff      32768  ---rwx offset = 0
0xff2a0000 - 0xff2affff      65536  free
0xff2b0000 - 0xff2b1fff       8192  ---rwx offset = 0
0xff2b2000 - 0xff2bffff      57344  free
0xff2c0000 - 0xff2c3fff      16384  ---r-x offset = 0
0xff2c4000 - 0xff2d1fff      57344  free
0xff2d2000 - 0xff2d3fff       8192  ---rwx offset = 8192
0xff2d4000 - 0xff2dffff      49152  free
0xff2e0000 - 0xff2e7fff      32768  ---r-x offset = 0
0xff2e8000 - 0xff2f5fff      57344  free
0xff2f6000 - 0xff2f7fff       8192  ---rwx offset = 24576
0xff2f8000 - 0xff2fffff      32768  free
0xff300000 - 0xff307fff      32768  ---r-x offset = 0
0xff308000 - 0xff315fff      57344  free
0xff316000 - 0xff319fff      16384  ---rwx offset = 24576
0xff31a000 - 0xff31ffff      24576  free
0xff320000 - 0xff321fff       8192  --srwx offset = 0
0xff322000 - 0xff32ffff      57344  free
0xff330000 - 0xff345fff      90112  ---r-x offset = 0
0xff346000 - 0xff353fff      57344  free
0xff354000 - 0xff355fff       8192  ---rwx offset = 81920
0xff356000 - 0xff35ffff      40960  free
0xff360000 - 0xff365fff      24576  ---r-x offset = 0
0xff366000 - 0xff373fff      57344  free
0xff374000 - 0xff375fff       8192  ---rwx offset = 16384
0xff376000 - 0xff37ffff      40960  free
0xff380000 - 0xff387fff      32768  ---r-x offset = 0
0xff388000 - 0xff395fff      57344  free
0xff396000 - 0xff397fff       8192  ---rwx offset = 24576
0xff398000 - 0xff39ffff      32768  free
0xff3a0000 - 0xff3a1fff       8192  ---r-x offset = 0
0xff3a2000 - 0xff3affff      57344  free
0xff3b0000 - 0xff3cdfff     122880  ---r-x offset = 0
0xff3ce000 - 0xff3dbfff      57344  free
0xff3dc000 - 0xff3ddfff       8192  ---rwx offset = 114688
0xff3de000 - 0xff3dffff       8192  ---rwx offset = 0
0xff3e0000 - 0xff443fff     409600  free
0xff444000 - 0xff445fff       8192  ---rwx offset = 0
0xff446000 - 0xffbe5fff    7995392  free
0xffbe6000 - 0xffbeffff      40960  s--rwx offset = 4294942720

The problem with memory_status_dump is that it doesn't identify what object is being mapped into any particular address area.  It seems reasonably intuitive what an "object" is by all of the maps on all architectures; each address range constitutes one mapping.  However, it is impossible to tell what the objects actually are, and sometimes when two address ranges are exactly adjacent to each other, the higher address range is likely an extension of the lower address range. This is important in deciding what objects to try to identify when deciding how to move things around. For example, if the C heap starts at 0x54000000 and the map has two ranges next to each other, one from 0x54000000 to 0x54007fff and one from 0x54008000 (i.e 0x54007fff + 1) to 0x5401dfff, then it is likely that the C heap was extended once, and thus that if the C heap is moved it will take care of both address ranges.

For x86 Windows, we make available on our FTP site a program called psapiworkingsetdemo.exe, from the Microsoft Win32 SDK:

(If you are running Alpha Windows NT, it might be available on the CD-ROM for the Win32 SDK for that platform.)  Download these into the same directory (required so the .exe can find the .dll).  Then, startup Allegro CL and run psapiworkingsetdemo. psapiworkingsetdemo will bring up a window showing the names of the programs currently running.  Click on `allegro.exe' (or `mlisp.exe' or `alisp.exe'), and in the lower pane you will be shown what items are using the memory visible to allegro.exe/mlisp.exe/alisp.exe.

For other platforms, the situation is more complicated, but there are usually operating system tools for interpreting the data.


Q 3-9.6) [Windows only] How do I move DLL in memory so that it doesn't conflict with the Lisp heap?

A 3.9-6) The preferred Lisp heap starting address is 0x20000000 on x86 Windows and 0x30000000 on Alpha Windows (the heap grows to higher memory addresses).   If, using the ``psapiworkingsetdemo.exe'' program (discussed above, an x86 Windows application), you find that the Lisp heap cannot grow to the size that you desire because of a DLL that is in the way, you can use the `editbin' program from Microsoft Visual C++ to move the default base address of the DLL.  For example, if foo.dll is in a bad location, according to psiworkingsetdemo, and you found foo.dll to live in the c:\winnt\system32 directory, then at a DOS prompt type (assuming 0x65000000 is the beginning of a free address range large enough to accomodate the DLL):

c: cd \winnt\system32
editbin foo.dll /rebase:base=0x65000000

and the next time Lisp starts up, Windows will try to locate foo.dll at 0x65000000 instead of the previous inconvenient address that interfered with the Lisp heap.

Note that the base address for a DLL is only advisory; if the space is already used, Windows will locate it to some other location.  By right-clicking on a DLL and selecting "Quick View" (if Quick View support is installed), you can see (among other things) the base address currently assigned to the DLL.


Q 3-9.7) What does the "Temporarily scaling back lisp reserved region from XXX to YYY bytes." mean?

A 3-9.7) It means that some other program has grabbed part of the address space that Lisp intended to use. This message is much more common on Windows, where various programs can grab predefined address ranges in all running programs. The Iomega Zip/Jaz tools and PGP are two programs known to do this. There are four things that you can do to handle this situation:

  1. Ignore the warning. This means that your lisp heap might be significantly smaller than intended. You can tell just how big by dividing YYY above by 1048576, which will give you the size of the heap in MB.
  2. Uninstall the application. Sometimes the application isn't really needed. On Windows, the Iomega tools on a SCSI system, for example, are not really needed--Windows has native support for these SCSI devices.
  3. [Windows only] "Rebase" the DLL to use another address.  See the Q 3-9.6 How do I move DLL in memory so that it doesn't conflict with the Lisp heap? item for more information. Look around address 0x65000000 for a free slot to which you can rebase the DLL. If addresses in that range are taken, find the Windows DLLs (e.g., COMCTL32.dll) and pick a location around them for the DLL to live.
  4. Rebuild your ACL images using a different range of addresses for the Lisp heap. On Windows, see the Q 3-9.6 How do I move DLL in memory so that it doesn't conflict with the Lisp heap? item above for more information. On UNIX, see the  Q 3-9.5 How can I tell what addresses are being used in my process space? item above for more information.

The arguments to build-lisp-image that you will need to specify are :lisp-heap-start, :lisp-heap-size, :c-heap-size and :c-heap-start.


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